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In this special year-in-review mailbag episode, producer Ella and I look back on favorite standout episodes from 2024, our process of working together, and what's ahead for Let It Out in the coming year. We answer a few questions about walking, the challenges of maintaining consistency, and our collaborative process with writing and editing newsletters and the truth of how our ideas take shape. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack --my episode on maddie's youtube where she interviews me November 2024: part 1 and part 2 - Magic Mind: get up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases with code: LETITOUT- Speechify: get 60% off their premium plan with my link- NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... let me know if you have any questions!- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester

It's just me this week, delivering a dispatch that feels more like a voice note to a friend than a typical interview. I centered this around how the so-called "irony epidemic" has shaped the way I work, write, and share my projects in a culture that often resists earnestness. I reflect on the push/pull between sincerity and detachment, the ways we seek validation both online and offline, and how group chats, community, and connection factor into it all. Plus, why being “goo prone” might just be the most human thing of all.Show notes:- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- Magic Mind: get up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases with code: LETITOUT- Submit a  question for our q&a episode: write them here OR  record here and we’ll play it on the episode! Announcements: - NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... Let me know if you have any questions!- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Piv

This week I spoke to chef, recipe developer, writer and food stylist Chloe Walsh, also known as Chloe Cooks. A Brit based out of Los Angeles, she hosts pop-ups, writes her incredible Substack (Anchovies & Soup), swims, and is known for her potato recipe and so much more. In addition to loving her food, I love her. I’m lucky enough to get to call her a friend and neighbor. She had me over a couple weeks ago, made us lunch, and we talked for hours about everything from her favorite places to go in LA, to meals to cook when alone, food culture as it relates to bodies, chronic illness, writing, design, growing her audience, managing her energy, and following her intuition in the kitchen. I loved every second of this one and I hope you do too! Show notes:- Get Magic Mind at 50% off with the Black Friday offer, available only through my link until December 6th: https://magicmind.com/liobf- Find Chloe on  IG | Substack- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Subst

This week I spoke to Moon Juice founder and CEO Amanda Chantal Bacon. Amanda, as it says in the PR email I received, “has a captivating personal story that led her to create her company,” but we barely touched on that in this conversation. Instead we had a candid conversation that began with talking about shame and a book (All Fours). And spanned to finding love later, aging, mourning past life phases, intergenerational friendship, and the myth of balance. I found this to be a very comforting conversation from start to finish; she was so wise and easygoing that I left feeling like I'd just hung up with a good friend.Despite the fact that I’ve been a fan of her products for over a decade, use her face wash daily, and credit her Beauty Pills for keeping my acne in check—we didn’t even talk about her her company origin story, or even one of her specific products. Next time. Let us know what you think eavesdropping.Show notes:- Find Amanda on Instagram- Shop Moon Juice & use code LETITOUT for 15% off sitewide

This is the second half of my conversation with one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. In Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most recent novel Death Valley, our favorite grocery stores, how to tell people what’s going on in the midst of a changing and challenging situation, finding humor, the messiness of bodies and aging, advice to write consistently, the journal prompts she uses daily, and questions from a previous guest. If you missed Part 1 last week, we talked about about everything from wellness culture and mental health to limerence, long-term relationships, and her writing process.  Show notes:- Find Melissa  on Instagram- Her books: So Sad Today, Milk Fed, The Pisces, Superdoom,  Last Sext & her newest, Death Valley- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- PIVOT zin

This week, I spoke to one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. I’m splitting this one up into two parts… Today you’ll hear the first half of our conversation where we talked about everything from wellness culture and mental health to limerence, long-term relationships, and her writing process.Next week, in Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most recent novel Death Valley, our favorite grocery stores, how to tell people what’s going on in the midst of a changing and challenging situation, finding humor, the messiness of bodies and aging, advice to write consistently, the journal prompts she uses daily, and questions from a previous guest. Show notes:- Find Melissa  on Instagram- Her books: So Sad Today, Milk Fed, The Pisces, Superdoom,  Last Sext & her newest, Death Valley- Find me on IG: @let

What you’re about to hear is a conversation between writer Verônika Shülman and myself, recorded last week at a party! In honor of the release of my new zine, Pivot, I hosted a party at NOTO and invited all of my friends. It was so nice to be in the same room with everyone after being stuck inside for most of the summer with a broken leg—in that time I had put together this zine, which is about the lessons I learned in the last decade and how I learned them.My friend and neighbor Verônika hosts this episode. She begins by reading from a book we both love (I Love Dick by Chris Kraus), then reads a bit that she liked from Pivot, and asks me to read an essay from it—which I do. My friends Maddie and Dexter also ask questions and we talk about more writers we love. If you want a copy of Pivot, below is how to get yourself a hard copy. Show notes:- Find Verônika on Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy - My book on jo

This week, Simi Botic—author, founder of Unmeasured, and my best friend—joins me to talk about PIVOT, a new zine of essays I compiled. After breaking my leg this summer, being stuck inside gave me time to put this together. Simi was the first person I sent it to, partly because she's a character in it and wrote one of the essays with me, and because she's always so gentle and supportive. I don't know how I got so lucky to have her as a friend but I did.In this, we talked about seeing each other through different phases. And about the uncomfortable feelings that come from revisiting our old work but try to do as Didion advises, "stay on nodding terms" with our past selves. PIVOT is one big nod to my 20's, including all the lessons I learned and the experiences that taught me them. Let us know if you listen. Show notes:- PIVOT zine is here - sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy | LA launch party on 9/27!- My book on journaling | WRITE kit- Find Simi on the Web | Instagram | Podcast- Simi's c

This week I spoke to Neada Deters, founder of the organic skincare range LESSE. We met when she still lived in LA a few years ago so we began this conversation discussing her recent move to NYC, which is a return for her. Neada moved to New York the first time from Australia with a one-way ticket over a decade ago, so we talked about how she made that big decision and many more, including starting out her career in music journalism, working at VICE, and eventually pivoting her beat to beauty writing before eventually starting her skincare line. Inspired by watching her grandmother apply her skincare, Neada gave LESSE the tagline, rituals over routines. We covered her own daily rituals as well as how she spends her days, working with her husband, her advice on romantic relationships, keeping in touch with people far away, and her approach to beauty including where the industry is going and what seeing images of ourselves more than ever before does to our self perception, plus much more. We talked for hours and

This week I spoke with Zoë Pawlak, a Vancouver-based artist and industrial designer. After deciding to get sober, she turned to journaling as a way of expression and inner reflection. Soon she married her interests in art and writing to create Vessels and Muses.In this conversation we cover: breaking traditional norms of what’s possible when you have kids; living an "artist lifestyle"; how what she calls "life quakes" lead to growth; and letting go of what’s no longer working. We also talk a lot about communication, the benefits of directness, community care, how she manages deep friendships while still maintaining a creative practice, and much more. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- Find Zoë on the Web | Instagram | Oracle Deck- My book on journaling - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you like

This week I spoke with the iconic writer and editor Christene Barberich. I first knew of her as the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Refinery29. I’ve loved her work for years, through R29, her own writing, and the podcast she hosted for many years called Unstyled, so when recent guest Erika Veurink connected us, I was thrilled.We spoke about starting R29 and what that time was like, reflecting on some of her best interviews with everyone from Linda Rodin to Jenny Slate. She also talked about leaving her role there and the excitement of new beginnings. At the root of her newest project, A Tiny Apt., is how the right environment fosters growth, creativity, safety and vulnerability, particularly as that relates to big dramatic change and leaps of faith. She discussed the changes she’s been navigating: becoming a mom later in life; the double standard of aging especially as it relates to work; how she’s redefining success and ambition as she enters this new era of her work and life. I loved getting to talk to he

This week I spoke to President Obama’s Social Secretary, Deesha Dyer. She recently published her memoir, Undiplomatic, which dives into how a hip-hop journalist without credentials, connections, or a college degree conquered imposter syndrome while landing one of the most sought-after positions in the White House. Moved by the election of the country's first Black president, she applied for a White House internship at 31, taking a leap that carried her through being hired in a full-time position that landed her at the epicenter of politics. I loved her book and was stoked to get to talk to her. We covered: the importance of following curiosity and acting on it, what she learned from spending time with Michelle and Barack Obama, redefining societal timelines, throwing parties at the White House, the Obama years overall, and the connection between pop culture and politics. As well as: the importance of cross-learning in mentorship and having customer service experience. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:-Fi

This week is the second half of my conversation with secondhand-fashion-obsessed writer Erika Veurink. She’s written everywhere from NY Magazine to Vogue to WSJ, and currently writes the newsletter Long Live. She grew up in Iowa, has lived in NYC for nearly a decade, and recently visited LA so we spoke about how places become part of our identities.In Part 2, she shares how she met her husband and offers advice on romantic relationships. And of course, personal style, including her go-to outfit. We talk more about her Substack publication, where she covers everything from her advice on scoring vintage gems on Ebay to to body image. I even get an exclusive when I ask if she’d write a Substack on her favorite athletic shorts recs and she shares a few. If you missed Part 1 last week, we covered spirituality and rest and spoke about writing at length, including her love for the personal essay and how she structures her daily writing practice. Let us know if you listen! Show Notes:- Find Erika on Instagram | Web |

This week is the first half of my conversation with secondhand-fashion-obsessed writer Erika Veurink. She’s written everywhere from NY Magazine to Vogue to WSJ, and currently writes the newsletter Long Live. She grew up in Iowa, has lived in NYC for nearly a decade, and recently visited LA so we spoke about how places become part of our identities.In Part 1, she shares how her religious upbringing led to her work ethic and ability to maintain multiple projects and jobs, but also impacted her thoughts on spirituality and rest. We cover writing at length including: her love of the personal essay and why publications are no longer running them, and where she sees the future of that style and media in general. She shares the best writing advice she’s been given and breaks down exactly how she structures her daily writing practice. We cover her Substack publication, where she covers everything from her advice on scoring vintage gems on Ebay to to body image.Next week in Part 2, we cover how she met her husband and

This is a conversation with Kerrilynn Pamer, founder of CAP Beauty. It was recorded recently at her kitchen table with the scent of a walnut cake in the oven filling the room. She was first on in 2021 where we talked about starting CAP, cooking, and personal style, and I’ve been dying to have her back ever since. This episode covers updates on topics discussed last time plus we talk about: having a fixed vs. growth mindset, feeling left out, friendship vs. acquaintances, taking a psychological approach to aging, beauty, developing taste, interiors (including how to make your home feel like a supportive friend), and much more. She’s one of my all-time favorite guests. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- CAP Beauty: code LETITOUT for 10% off your order | @capbeautydaily- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack (read the post I mention about eggs here)- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's

This is a conversation is with Kerrilynn Pamer, co-founder of the wellness company CAP Beauty. We recorded this at her kitchen table overlooking the mountains drinking espresso. She talks about starting CAP, being in the "unsexy" middle of a project, her love of cooking and sharing food, her evolving personal style, how to build and sustain positive relationships, and a whole lot more. This was recorded in 2022 but I'm re-airing it today because she's returning to the show next week. I recorded a brand new interview with her where we reference some of the topics we discussed here and she gives updates of what happened since, so stay tuned for that next week!  Show notes:- CAP Beauty: code LETITOUT for 10% off your purchase | @capbeautydaily- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization

This week I spoke to my close friend, chef, author, and screenwriter Phoebe Lapine. She is one of the most creative and self-aware people I know, and I deeply admire her and her work. We met years ago when I interviewed her when her book The Wellness Project came out and then again for her last book which was about SIBO. She has a new cookbook out now, called Carbivore, which I have been learning to cook from. We catch up in this episode about the topic of this new project which is, of course, carbs: we get into what led to carbs being demonized by the diet industry, what sugar and carbs actually mean for our blood sugar, food sequencing, digestion, how overthinking all of this can be damaging, and how we’ve both been on the extreme ends and how to navigate that. Let us know if you listen. Show notes:- Phoebe's latest book: Carbivore- Phoebe's earlier books: SIBO Made Simple | The Wellness Project | In the Small Kitchen- Connect with Phoebe on The Web | Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout |

This week, Jessica Lyda returns. A friend recommended her sessions to me in 2020 and afterward I wanted to know how she got into it and have her share her wisdom here. The way that she works with people is hard to articulate, but she explains it well in this. Jessica has facilitated healing sessions with thousands of different people, from celebrities to therapists to shamans to skeptics to me! She helps you figure out some trapped emotions and how to release those. We also talk about: what to do when nothing is working, how to handle feeing stagnant, toxic relationships, setting boundaries, people-pleasing dynamics, overwhelm, catching ideas, and much more … let us know if you listen… Show Notes:- Find Jessica on the Web | Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course

This week is the second part of my conversation with longtime DJ and music producer, Free Oribhabor. He’s also the founder of The Record Club, an immersive album listening experience he hosts monthly in LA. As the LA Times put it, "He wanted to create a music listening experience that replicated the grandiose feeling of sitting in a theater and watching a film with other fans." As you’ll hear in these conversations (and you’ve felt if you’ve danced while he’s DJ-ing or been in the audience while he unpacks a favorite album) his enthusiasm is palpable. In this we not only talk about the origin of The Record Club but also expanding it in the future while maintaining the intimate vision he had for it early on.In part 2 we talk about how his musical taste has developed, having confidence in one's taste and allowing taste to change, and he also takes questions from friends. If you missed part 1, we covered wormholes and research, being undervalued in education, and making money doing many different things (being a

This week is part 1 of a 2-part conversation I had with longtime DJ and music producer, Free Oribhabor. He’s also the founder of The Record Club, an immersive album listening experience he hosts monthly in LA. As the LA Times put it, "He wanted to create a music listening experience that replicated the grandiose feeling of sitting in a theater and watching a film with other fans." As you’ll hear in these conversations (and you’ve felt if you’ve danced while he’s DJ-ing or been in the audience while he unpacks a favorite album) his enthusiasm is palpable. In this we not only talk about the origin of The Record Club but also expanding it in the future while maintaining the intimate vision he had for it early on.In part 1 we talk about wormholes and research, being undervalued in education, making money doing many different things (being a jack-of-all-trades) which can mean that things take longer. And in part 2 we get into how his musical taste has developed, having confidence in taste, allowing taste to change