Fuse 8 N' Kate

Poor Kate. All she wanted was a halfway spooky picture book. Instead Betsy gives her a book from Team Gruffalo. This week's choice of book for the Halloween season has appeared year after year on the Bestseller Lists here in America. It's a book that features a kind of Mr. Gumpy's Outing meets There Was an Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly energy on its pages. Never read it? Never fear! We've done it for you and found some tidbits worth discussing. Show Notes: You may hear us mention that Julia Donaldson's career in picture books began because of a song she created called "A Squash and a Squeeze". Who are we to deny you a vision of her performing that song herself? https://youtu.be/MXa888kw7GY Once we heard it was turned into a stop animation film, we had to check it out. Here are some scenes. We hate to say it, but this is utterly UTTERLY charming. Better than the source material, perhaps: https://vimeo.com/59083888 Betsy Recommends: The new NPR podcast Book of the Day Kate Recommends: The H.H. Holmes Murder

"Oh no! We don't have a fish to protect us now!" Success! Fuse 8 n' Kate has managed to reach episode' two HUNDRED! Now the topic turns to a famous feline-centric sequel. Betsy and Kate don't shy away from the controversy surrounding Seuss and his cat in this episode. Bonus: They also get to bandy about sentences like, "The chain of signification is interminable and, being interminable, indeterminate." In the end, they realize once and for all that while this cat may come back that doesn't mean they'll ever have to see him again. Show Notes: To celebrate the 200th episode Kate and Betsy did a live recording of this show. Want to see it? Thanks to the power of Vimeo, now you can: https://vimeo.com/621640559 Kate Recommends: The Hulu streaming show Only Murders in the Building Betsy Recommends: 19th century ukiyo-e prints. More specifically Takiyasha the Witch and the Skeleton Spectre or Mitsukuni Defying the Skeleton Spectre Invoked by Princess Takiyasha. It is, definitely, Kate's 12-foot-tall skeleton.

Kate and Betsy are on a perpetual hunt for older children's books that broke new ground, and show that the history of children's book publishing could occasionally incorporate a wider variety of voices and styles. Today they take a trip back to 1973 to a book that was originally released just a year after the final Apollo missions. It has now been reprinted for the first time in years by The New York Review Children's Collection, released just last week. Think that's good? Kate points out that this is a timely choice since the first civilian mission, The Inspiration 4, just returned to Earth recently. After looking at this book, their ultimate conclusion is that this title would make for a good readaloud. They consider this "Seamless amalgam" of the hands of Leo and Diane Dillon and get to talk about Oscar the Grouch, how nerdy Betsy gets on collectionHQ, and a book called Pish-Posh, Said Hironymous Bosh (which we love as a title). Show Notes: For the full show notes please visit: https://blogs.slj.com/afus

Lick lick lick lick lick! Here we have a rare opportunity to examine an old book from 1979 and its 2014 update. Kate challenged Betsy to come up with a dog picture book and Betsy realized that they had never done one of the most fascinating cases in American children's literature. As is explained on the show, Steven Kellogg used to live in Sandy Hook. When the school shooting occurred he was deeply affected. And, in light of objections he'd heard regarding the burglar and his gun in his book Pinkerton, Behave! he agreed to re-illustrate. Kate and Betsy compare both versions of the book and have a LOT to discuss. Consistently they find the changes in the text to be subtle but unpredictable. Bonus: Kate's able to whip out her obedience school knowledge with this one. And, of course, defenestration abounds! Show Notes: Here is the article in Publishers Weekly : Steven Kellogg on Why He Reworked a 'Pinkerton' Scene in Response to Sandy Hook: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-indu

We all we have our pet favorite books for children. Some were the ones we loved when we ourselves were kids. Others are the ones we enjoy reading to our own children. And a few are the ones we enjoy hearing our children read when they're learning how. This book falls into that final category. And part of the reason I love it is how weird it is. Take a trip back in time with us to 1959 where Ball Boy and Stalker Sally go on a series of misadventures as his ball attempts to destroy itself in a myriad number of ways. Show Notes: We mention that SLJ did an article about this podcast and lo and behold it's online as well. Visible here: https://www.slj.com/?detailStory=celebrate-the-200-episode-of-fuse-8-n-kate This is the famous poster created by Fritz Siebel that won the contest that was judged by Eleanor Roosevelt. As we mention on the show, it apparently makes an appearance in The Spanish Prisoner: https://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/files/2021/09/SomeoneTalked.jpg And here is what may arguably be Fritz'

It's been a while since we tackled a book with that awe-inspiring, shiny Gold Caldecott medal on its cover. As such, it seemed wise to break out Paul O. Zelinsky's major award winner. Limiting our Into the Woods quotes to the bare minimum, Kate proves to be the perfect reader for this book, having only seen Tangled once, and that was while drunk and one-eyed. She's practically a clean slate! Plus, it seems appropriate to do a story on a woman attempting (and failing) to enforce chastity at a time when Texas is controlling women's bodies at an increasing rate. For the full Show Notes please visit us at: https://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2021/09/06/fuse-8-n-kate-rapunzel-by-paul-o-zelinsky/

Though today you see books about Black hair pride in a lot of the children's picture books on the market today, we credit Natasha Tarpley for creating one of the very first back in 1998. Betsy will also confess that she did consider doing Nappy Hair by Carolivia Herron, which came out in 1997, but she didn't think she was adept enough to tackle the issues that came up when that book hit the marketplace. Instead, Kate and Betsy kvell at the wonder that is E.B. Lewis, discuss realism in picture book literature, and establish that yes, this book was indeed created in the 90s. Show Notes: A great interview that allows you to recap a lot what we discuss on the show can be found in this interview between Natasha Tarpley and Shondaland called "I Love My Hair" 20 Years Later: https://www.shondaland.com/inspire/books/a22791424/i-love-my-hair-natasha-tarpley-interview/ For those of you who didn't understand Betsy's Moxy Fruvous reference, this is the song she meant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9sYtfepRvc For t

Since we were 98% sure that we'd already done The Kissing Hand, this year's first day of school book came out 21 years ago. This book is huge with teachers and schools but isn't a book that won a lot of literary awards or anything. And with children heading back to school now, the timing could not be better. With its M. Night Shymalan-esque twist and fondness for slips and magenta clogs, this proves to be an excellent peek into the state of picture books circa 2000. Show Notes: So is it a Midwest thing for kids to go to school before Labor Day? Or are we just making this up? Betsy mentions that another book did the exact same twist in its storyline. That book was Back to School Tortoise, which came out in 2011. For the full Show Notes please visit: http://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2021/08/23/fuse-8-n-kate-first-day-jitters-by-julie-danneberg-ill-judy-love/

Could you publish a book today where a sibling relationship is anything other than sunshine and roses by the story's conclusion? Betsy says no, and she says the elaborate revenge fantasy of this week's podcast topic, I'll Fix Anthony, is a healthy catharsis for some children. Kate, needless to say, disagrees. Judith Viorst (best known for Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day) and Arnold Lobel (best known for Frog and Toad) got together and created this truly original, one-of-a-kind book. But does that mean it's any good? Our skilled critics take a deep dive into its legacy today (and come up with some pretty different reactions). Show Notes: Kate Recommends: Up to Speed on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/up-to-speed-31eca3f1-0b45-4e07-8e1d-be2b55feece9 Betsy Recommends: Quinta Brunson in the skit If I Won 2nd Place at the Winter Olympics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnLljVxm_0k For the full Show Notes please visit: https://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2021/08/09/fuse-8-n-kat

With the thrall of the Olympics in the air, Kate and Betsy decided to do a sportsy picture book this week. And what they ended up with is arguably the most famous picture book in Canada. How famous is it? It's SO famous that a line from it has appeared on Canadian currency. It's SO famous that it has its own musical. We dodge around topics like Canada's Quiet Revolution (?), books with titles like La Guerre, Yes Sir!, Maurice "The Rocket" Richard, and Betsy mispronounces Tupac. Cause she can. Show Notes: Curious? Here's a glimpse of the musical they made of the book. We highly suspect it had a different resolution from that of the original tale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp3kyfjuELs Betsy Recommends: The podcasts The Plot Thickens from TCM (season 2!) and Still Buffering. Kate Recommends: Schmigadoon on Apple Plus For the full Show Notes please visit: https://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2021/08/03/fuse-8-n-kate-the-hockey-sweater-by-roch-carrier-ill-sheldon-cohen-translated-by-sheila-fischman/

With the recent death of Floyd Cooper, we were inspired to discover which picture book of his could be best considered a "classic" of the genre. It's a hard call, and we're sure you have your own favorites, but we're going with this 1994 release. Plus, it has the extra added benefit of being the first Nikki Grimes title we've done on the show! Show Notes: Here you can enjoy this interview with Nikki Grimes, which delves deep into her life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1evVHnBU5NE For the full Show Notes please visit: http://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2021/07/26/fuse-8-n-kate-meet-danitra-brown-by-nikki-grimes-ill-floyd-cooper

On today's podcast we thought we might try another Audrey & Don Wood title above and beyond the already commented upon King Bidgood's In the Bathtub. It's a cumulative tale that has continued to remain in print for the last 37 years. We discuss tiny ligers, whether the mouse in this book has Toxoplasma gondii, and the likelihood of a carbon monoxide leak in this particular house. Show Notes: - At the top of the show we mention an exhibit at the Museum of Science and Industry. It's called Marvel: Universe of Super Heroes. If you're in the Chicago area in late August, September, or October, buy your tickets now! https://www.msichicago.org/explore/whats-here/exhibits/marvel-universe-of-super-heroes/ - The book mentioned in the course of things is The Lore and Language of Schoolchildren by the Iona and Peter Opie. Sendak was a particular fan. You see, in the 1950s, the Opies collected schoolyard poems, riddles, and chants from some 5,000 children attending 70 schools in different parts of England, Scotland, an

Having already covered the recently departed legend Eric Carle, we figure it only makes sense (and is fair) to mention the other recently departed legend, Lois Ehlert. But which book to do? Betsy will confess to you that 95% of my choice to do this book was based on a letter Bad Kitty author Nick Bruel once wrote to Ms. Ehlert, alongside a box of chocolates (read on this show). In this episode the sisters insult one another's mom, discuss a TikTok challenge, and determine the proper pronunciation of "xigua" and its origins. Show Notes: Total Number of Fruits and Veggies From This Book That Kate Has Eaten: 41 Total Number of Fruits and Veggies From This Book That Betsy Has Eaten: 47 Kate mentions that if you put a grapefruit in the microwave, it'll spark. That, in turn, reminded Betsy of this episode of Radiolab, which examines why fruits and veggies spark in the microwave and what that truly means: https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/big-little-questions Kate mentions the Tik Tok stra

Having failed to secure a proper Fourth of July picture book (and really, isn't the 4th soooo yesterday?) Betsy decided instead to take several listener recommendations and go all in on Jane Yolen's 1987 Caldecott Award winner. What better book to look at on these hot July days than a cold story of moonlit driven snow on a wintery night? Kate and Betsy try to make weird owl noises, debate why we don't eat them for food, and play the game of "Guess How Many Books Jane Yolen Has Written." Show Notes: You can read Jane Yolen's thoughts on the book here: https://www.janeyolen.com/owl-moon/ You can read editor Patricia Lee Gauch's thoughts on the book here: http://patricialeegauch.com/major-picture-books-edited-by-patricia-lee-gauch/ How did it do on the Top 100 Picture Books Poll on SLJ? In 2012 it was #30: https://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2012/06/05/top-100-picture-books-30-owl-moon-by-jane-yolen/ Kate Recommends: The Olympics (and please bear in mind that we recorded this before we knew who Sha'Carri

Betsy thought she knew how this story was going to end, and it definitely took a hard right turn that she was NOT expecting. We're talking about Pete Seeger's Abiyoyo, a title Betsy first encountered as a child on Reading Rainbow. But what looks at first to be a simple case of cultural appropriation turns into something a bit more complicated. There are all kinds of twists and turns in our discussion today, and many of our assumptions walking in were upended. We talk scofflaws, why Abiyoyo is the opposite of Steven Universe, how this book is like that episode of The Twilight Zone called "It's a Good Life", whether monsters like to waltz, and the Red Scare. You know. Abiyoyo stuff! Show Notes: The Michael Hays website is a pretty darn good source of information so check it out for the background story we mention in the podcast: https://www.michaelhays.com/abiyoyo/index.html Here's the article with the couple that named their toy store Abiyoyo. When Betsy read it she noticed that it was first place where Pet

Betsy wanted to do books in honor of the recently deceased Eric Carle and Lois Ehlert, but then Kate went and got married and Betsy had a writing retreat the week after that. Now they are back! Kate's got a ring, Betsy's got a manuscript (sorta), and they've both got a book from Eric Carle to discuss. A book with nudity! A book that's been banned more than once! A book that includes neat little details. And stay tuned and see if you can catch something new in the closing credits. Show Notes: Here's the Literary Hub breakdown of that fake Eric Carle info that was making the rounds right after his death: https://lithub.com/that-inspiring-eric-carle-quote-making-the-rounds-yesterday-was-actually-an-april-fools-joke/ And here is the interview where Eric Carle talked about A Week With Willie the Worm: https://metro.co.uk/2009/03/20/hungry-caterpillar-author-on-zoo-maths-566674/ For the full Show Notes please visit: http://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2021/06/21/fuse-8-n-kate-draw-me-a-star-by-eric-carle/

"Somebody's getting maaarried!" People of a certain generation will know to sing that line to a tune created for the film The Muppets Take Manhattan. Of course in our case, it's Kate who is getting hitched later this week (on Friday!). So while we do want to do a book in honor of Eric Carle and one in honor of Lois Ehlert, this is not the right week to do so. But what wedding related picture book could Betsy possibly come up with? None other than the very German picture book The Pigs' Wedding. Of course the last German import we did was Duck, Death and the Tulip, so let's hope this book is a tad bit cheerier. How accurate is the wedding in this book? Kate's in a primo position to comment on this point. So are you ready? It's schwein time! Show Notes: Betsy mentions at one point that there is a Weston Woods video of this book. Here is a selection of that film, including the story's song. Now, fully orchestrated. 100 points if you can name the narrator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9soBEvNzUQ Betsy Recom

In honor of the recent death of children's author Arnold Adoff, Betsy thought it might be a good idea to consider a book that many call the first professionally published picture book to feature a biracial family published in the United States. Originally released in 1973, we look at the 2002 edition (re-illustrated by the same artist as the first time, Emily Arnold McCully). Betsy gets very excited about the fact that Adoff was not only married to Virginia Hamilton, but that he met her as a nightclub singer when he was managing Mingus. Now THAT is a how-we-met story! For the full Show Notes please visit: http://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2021/05/23/fuse-8-n-kate-black-is-brown-is-tan-by-arnold-adoff-ill-emily-arnold-mccully/

"I am perfectly willing to believe that this is a stupidflock." Kate's getting very fond of giving Betsy challenges. This week? To do another celebrity picture book. Betsy had already handed her a Julie Andrews, and it's still too soon to do Madonna. Where does that leave them? Well, let me put it this way: If you wanted to learn about a book based on a film that included in its cast (amongst others) Estelle Getty and Melissa Etheridge, today's your lucky day. Kate and Betsy tackle Harvey Fierstein's still-in-print picture book, The Sissy Duckling, illustrated by Henry Cole. Cole, for the record, also illustrated And Tango Makes Three, thereby solidifying his status as specializing in bird picture books that defy heteronormative power structures. Show Notes: If you're curious about that interview between PW and Harvey Fierstein (where he says some really smart and cogent things) you can find it here: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/authors/interviews/article/40277-pw-talks-with-harvey-fierstei

We've been through the desert on a horse with no name. Now we don't usually feel a need to warn you guys ahead of time, but here's the low-down on this week's book. Long story short, we don't much care for it. A little disheartening too that Paul Goble won a Caldecott for this title 43 years before the first picture book Award (not Honor) went to an Indigenous illustrator (2021's We Are Water Protectors). Kate and Betsy discuss its many of the problematic elements. At length. With relish. Show Notes: Betsy's book giveaway is still happening this week. If you'd like to enter to win a bound copy just head over here: https://blogs.slj.com/afuse8production/2021/04/29/book-giveaway-long-road-to-the-circus-by-betsy-bird/ A couple links for you on the book coming via American Indians in Children's Literature: - About Paul Goble and His Books: https://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/2009/07/about-paul-goble-and-his-books.html - Dear Mr. Goble: Questions for Paul Goble about THE GIRL WHO LOVED W