Saving The World With Barry & Lucas

This week’s episode is a must listen! Barry and Lucas have a profoundly moving, insightful and funny conversation with Clemantine Wamariya. She’s an author, a speaker, and a human rights ambassador who worked with the Obama administration, and we talk with her about her new book, “The Girl Who Smiled Beads.” It’s an incredible book (AVAILABLE NOW) which deals with her experience with atrocity as a child in Rwanda and then her life after as a refugee in the United States. We talk about the importance of language, of why it’s always better to be “us” people, why we should all be living our best lives, and why Oprah and Ellen should have a tv show together with dancing! Also Lucas mispronounces Elie Wiesel’s name! What a dummy! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices