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The rules of business are changing. And those rules are being written by some … unlikely characters. Andrew McAfee is a Principal Research Scientist at the MIT Sloan School of Management and author of a number of books, including The Geek Way. Mary Long caught up with McAfee to discuss how culture shapes companies – and brings about impressive returns along the way. They discuss: The power of “geekiness” How Satya Nadella turned Microsoft around And why Amazon *wants* to see billion-dollar failures. Tickers discussed: AMZN, MSFT, AAPL, GOOG, META Host: Mary Long Guest: Andrew McAfee Producer: Ricky Mulvey Engineers: Dan Boyd, Rick Engdahl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices