Business Is Boring

Founder of Google's Empathy Lab and Grandmother—a nonprofit that brings diverse voices and perspectives into solving big problems—Danielle Krettek is a trailblazer in empathetic design. She has played pivotal roles as a member of the team behind the iPhone, iPad, and the Google X moonshot factory. While visiting town for the Spark Lab Future State: New Realities event, Danielle joined Simon Pound for a chat about working alongside Steve Jobs, the role of spiritual practice in her life, and using business as a tool for good. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices