Velvets Edge

Kelly talks to author and spiritual guru Phil Goldberg about how to survive the hard, imperfect, messy parts of life. Phil gives tangible tips as well as calming wisdom and ultimately what may be a map for a new life for us all. Website: http://philipgoldberg.comBook: Spiritual Practice for Crazy Times  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.