Breakthrough Dialogues

Julian Brave NoiseCat self-identifies as a “capital C, capital P” Climate Person. He’s a writer and strategist, formerly of 350.org and now at Data for Progress and the Natural History Museum, working to tackle issues of inequality through climate activism. Today’s episode is wide-ranging and topical: we cover his feelings as an “elder millennial” in a climate movement led by energetic youth, how he wishes Kanye West would intervene, and whether it’s more important to focus on bipartisanship or a better-articulated Democratic climate plan. We’re in a different climate moment than we used to be, he argues, so building new institutions suited to current needs is crucial for a strong climate fight.