Sad Dad

Great episode this week with the funny and charming Matt LeGrande. We talk dads, growing up in Indonesia, the gay Zodiac, Matt takes an important trip to Europe, his dad tries to save the world, and I catch a cold. It's a ton of fun. Check it out!   Follow Matt: https://www.instagram.com/lemattlegrande/ The article I mention in the intro: https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/7/03/how-gay-evangelical-learned-love-himself-and-wear-heels   Follow me: @daveapkarian Contact me: saddadpodcast@gmail.com