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Gareth Hughes: Former Green MP says the party has always been distrustful of leadership and power

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James Shaw might not have paid close enough attention to dissatisfaction within his own party. The Greens have voted to reopen nominations for Shaw's co-leadership position, as part of the annual process of reconfirming their two leaders. Former Green MP Gareth Hughes told Mike Hosking the party has always been distrustful of leadership and power. He says the whole party was set up as a new way of doing politics, and for the first five years it didn't even have a leader. LISTEN ABOVE